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Done in the vain of “outlook”, “keep” was an attempt to get back into compositional traditional (or for that matter, digital) art. Over the past 3 days I’ve grinding on this, not including the few hours I spent trying to map the picture out in sketchbook pro.

Done almost completely using a .5mm mechanical pencil and blending stubs with only minor 6b and ebony touch ups as usual leveling can never get the same feel the real picture has, however, I think I gave it a good shot.

This picture was edited from the WIP version (in my scraps) using the fantastic help from you guys who got to it and my life-drawing teacher. Additions include darkening around the soldier, adding more gate debris, touching up on the dead guy on the right, adding more atmosphere and other such minor touch-ups

If I could change anything, it would probably be everything, but oh well, I learned allot and it was nice getting back into graphite… nothing beats grinding lead onto Bristol board to really etch out a shadow.

Its kinda saddening knowing that “outlook” has been my personal favorite deviation (and hence, my featured) for more than… 2 years? And I don’t know if this picture will change that.

Any compositional critique while still helpful in all honestly won’t be enacted on – but don’t be hindered if you need to say something.

Its taken me a long time to get the base group of people that I have watching me, but trust me, your constant encouragement and critique go well beyond the “OMG FAV” that other people are content with, and for that, I am thankful!

All edits will be noted, but i do plan to manipulate it a bit with photoshop after class!

***EDIT (keep 1.5)***

played around in photoshop and added a boarder as well as re-curved it. after a brief run with the clone tool, im starting to get crazy thoughts... like removing the spear soldier and his victim all together, but i don't know if the paper could hold up to it or if i would get a clean enough erasure.

***EDIT (Print Uploaded)***

for what its worth its not a print! might as well use my account!
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leino123 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
lol big random fist
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InvisibleBeagle Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2007
Woah... Very awesome, indeed! Love the shading on this (and that huge fist coming out of nowhere is a great touch :P). Wait... What is that thing? Neato sig on the shield.

You should come up some tutorials and sell them as DVDs or something... Haha, that'd be sweet.

(Thought I had commented on this... Gah... Memory-loss...)
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
thank you very much for your belated comment :D

i was wanting a giant troll or ogre smashing through the main gate, and wanted to give the impression that the battle has just changed sides... ultimately i really dropped the ball by including the spear guy killing the enemy soldier. if i would have left that out i think the picture would have been vastly superior :/

as for dvds, i think people would want to spend their money on dvd's made by a professional, not a random dude wanting to be one :D
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skkyracer667 Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2007
This is the art i like the most!! Your really good at drawing battle scenes and violent stuff. Keep up the good work!
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deadmangunner Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2007
this my kind of art, gore, blood, and violence
thats what I am talking about lol.
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Aranthulas Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2007
awesomeness for traditional art!! Very nice contrasts with the values. its dark where it needs to be dark and light where it needs to be light. As was previously stated, it really captures the essence of a chaotic battle. The wood debris really adds to that fact. As far as the crits go, i wouldnt have ended the main guys, elbow oh so close to the border of the piece, cause it creates a real nasty tangent. It also seems that the wall on the left side of the main figure has a tad darker values than on the right side. another thing that would be cool would if the things that go forward toward us would have higher contrast in terms of value. For instance, the sword the main guy's holding - the lighter side - could be a lot lighter than its darker side. you can also play around with this with the receding arm holding the sword, in contrast to the sword itself. Very solid drawing, overall nice composition. I would love to see how you handle this in color, considering you have a great eye for value. I bet it would be a killer.
Just my 2 cents, i know how long and tedious it takes to produce this typa piece - i just felt i needed to say something worthwhile to read. Definitely faving this one. its great =). would love to see more.
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
thank you so much for the well thought out critique! i'll file those away for whenever i pull myself together and do another piece like this!
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jaysnanavati Featured By Owner May 21, 2007   Interface Designer
good work keep it up NICE very detailed I should say
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LoneDesperado Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2007
great atmosphere :)
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velius666 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2007
amazing, best knight concept i have ever seen!
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Snitch-killa Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2007
nice, i like how detailed it is.
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dijimucks Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yep! That one is defenately excelent!
Keep it up, and try something non-violant..just for fun:P
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
well... the vast majority of my work isn't that violent in form... but yeah most of them do involve all sorts of firearms and the like :D
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Inkthinker Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
I think this is pretty brilliant. All pencil on Bristol? Man... that's inspiring. I haven't done a full-blown pencil drawing in at least a year, not since I finally succumbed to the tablet's siren song.

Very cool.
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
im glad you enjoy it as much as i do. i too have been drifting more and more onto digital, but i've only become really familiar with sketchbook pro... while its great for lines, i really need to get into painter and photoshop, but im not looking forward to it at all. regardless, i really just felt the desire to grind some graphite... which in many ways i like over digital :D
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Inkthinker Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
I like Photoshop quite a bit... I don't make it complicated, I just use the basic tools for the most part... brush, eraser. Transforms, duplications and Layers make it a completely different world from working on paper, though. I only made the switch about a year ago, but I'm doing all my work that way now.
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Shadowgrail Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2007  Professional Traditional Artist
great contrasts man.. good control of your tonal values.
If i could suggest however that for pictures with ALOT going on in details that you could purposely use darker tonal values or more striking diffrences of tonal value for the Main focus of your piece and kinda keep the background 2 shades lighter . this would help make the drawing "POP" out more.

over all it's Amazing in detail and complexity !
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
thank you so much for your suggestions - for this picture i guess i had it in my mind that by lowering background detail, and sharpness i could bring out the front... but looks like i was wrong :D
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Sebbythefreak Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2007  Professional Filmographer
i absolutely love this
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TheIndividualEleven Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2007
Yowza! I love the armor design, especially the helmet!
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
thank you, im glad you like it!
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Skoane Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2007
Awesome drawing...cool stuff!
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digi-mech Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2007
looking good dude, but then I liked it before the changes ;)

steve
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dukeleto Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I love the new armour details on the foreground victim. Still think the swordsman's padded pants are weird tho!
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
yeah, i was going for a pleated leather look... but what do i know :P
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dukeleto Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oh cool I like drawing leather! The problem is what happens with the pleats where they meet at the top of the thigh, there must be some folds in the leather or he wouldn't be able to walk! I'd really just fudge it with a deep shadow, save the bother of working it out.
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finicks Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007  Student General Artist
I like the combo of roman (The gladius and exposed tunic for example) and gothic influences [link]
There's a good example of some ornamentation similar to their armor.
Anyway, it's a compelling design.
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
thank you! i was going for something different
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DarknessGivesLife Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007
is it done? if so ****ing cool.
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
aye, it is finished
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Thunor Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007
Holy Jesus sauce.
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
mmmm, nothing like a good dose of jesus sauce to start the day off RIGHT!
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Thunor Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007
Damn fucking straight.
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BartBar Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007
Very nice work. ;)
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
thank you
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rippedangelwings Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007
I am just jealous! This is beautiful! You are talented! Don't ever stop drawing!
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
thank you, and i don't plan on it
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BarelyLiterate Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007   Writer
I have to say here, wow. The drawing really captures I guess the hysteria of battle, and the detail mind boggling. Seriously, this is good stuff. Oh and sorry if this seems like a OMG fav comment, I don't mean it to be.
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
:D

i was referring more to the day or so of critique i asked for on the work in progress version i had up - as the final release critique is not focus of the final version!
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Tlaxus Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
WOW!! The detail is amazing!!
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Legato895 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
thank you, i tried keeping everything sharp that was closer, while toning it down towards the background
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Tlaxus Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2007  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Just like you were there as well, watching the slaughter.
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